Andy SC The tourney round should read - Everything Counts V: sign up page.
Jason Larsen I've signed up!
Emily Cox everyone play everyone Andy
Matthew Tassier I agree with Emily, it's part of this tournament's DNA
Andy SC Aye that is what i was thinking Matthew, part of the tournaments DNA but the question is whether to cap the number of people signing up or open it up to an unlimited number.
Ian Birdman I'd cap it at 64 - plenty of time for everyone who wants to enter to get in. I'd also say that entering the tourney is commitment to play ALL your games. If you have no intention of playing them all then don't bother signing up. But it's your tourney not mine :-)
Elliott Mellor Fully agree with Ian here.
Johnny Canuck Maybe allow an unlimited number of entries, but divide the round robin stage into two equal groups if the total number is larger than some threshold (perhaps 50).
Elliott Mellor I'd also favour that - I think 63 games can be overwhelming for some people. 30 or so still ensures you're sticking with the traditional large number of games but also halves the workload for people (including yourself...removing loads of unplayed games can't exactly be fun).
Andy SC I do not mind removing large amounts of games that have not been played and all of the previous Everything Counts bar one have been everybody playing everybody but splitting into two groups would lose the tradition of the tournament a bit, so there is plenty to think about for this tournament.
Mark Murray completely agree that people should at least have the intention to get on with their games. that was the biggest bug bear last time for me when people were online, and would not play their game
Andy SC Yup completely agree, Mark. If people don't have the intention to get on with their games then either don't bother signing up or i should be informed ASAP so their remaining games can be removed and thus not show up after the deadline has passed.
Jason Turner Andy, I have games from the last two everything counts tourney's that still show up. Is this because they weren't played before the limit and you can't remove em? If this is the case perhaps have a limit on play of a day before the cut off to allow you to delete unplayed games?
Andy SC I was able to remove games after the deadline but for some reason they seem to show up in your challenges, Jason. That is a good idea, setting the end date for the tournament a couple of days after the deadline is what i will do. Thank you for the idea.
James Haughton Do we wait until sign ups have closed before playing matches against one another?
Andy SC After sign ups have closed, i will add the fixtures ASAP and then you are free to start playing one another.
James Haughton Cheers, Andy.
Andy SC A reminder that sign-ups for this tournament close next friday. Fixtures will the shortly be added after midnight.
Andy SC Just some feedback from a tournament test that i have conducted on games showing up after the deadline and all that. On the 10th of May i set up a tournament match for myself against each of the bots. I played 4 of these games and did not play the other 5. Of the 5 that i did not play, I removed three of these from the tournament page before the deadline and these still showed up in the challenges section but did not display the name of the tournament. As for the other two games i did not play i removed these after the deadline and they did show up in the challenges but displayed the name of the tournament in the challenges section. So it appears that any game that goes through the Apterous Tournament System appears to show up in the challenges even if they are removed before or after the deadline. So i imagine it is probably going to be a case that unplayed tournament games this time around will show up in the challenges section despite being removed from the tournament page....
Andy SC ..... unless something changes in the time. So if this still does remain the case I guess to stop the moaning, annoyance or whatever you wish to call it, you will just have to play the game even though it is not that necessary, apologies for this.
Andy SC A quick reminder that sign-ups are open for the rest of today, Thursday and Friday if you still wish to sign-up for the tournament.
Andy SC Well today is the last day to sign-up for Everything Counts V. There will be a large volume of games, so only sign-up if you wish or can commit to playing a large volume of games.
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Johnny Canuck Will there be one group or two this time?
Anthony Endsor Vowing to hold my head in the gas oven forever over the unplayed games, I have signed up :)
Andy SC Think i'm just going to stick to one group, Johnny. I feel that a higher percentage of games will get completed if it is one group instead of two groups.
Elliott Mellor I don't think that's true, but your choice.
Andy SC It would probably depend what players are drawing into each group, if i was to split it into two groups. One group could end up with a lot of players that don't play a lot of games.
Notes from the organizer: Well I think it is time for another one of these tournaments, so here it is Everything Counts V.
Firstly, a roll of honour of the previous champions of everything counts:
Series I – Callum Todd
Series II – Callum Todd
Series III – Zarte Siempre
Series IV – Elliott Mellor
Now for this edition, I am thinking of whether to leave it as one massive round robin stage where everybody will play everybody or split it into two groups with players then advancing to the knockout stages depending on the amount of players that enter the tournament. Feedback would be greatly appreciated on this issue.
Now time for the explanation of the process to be explained. Regardless of the round robin stage that is used, the scoring system will remain the same to determine who finishes top of the round robin stage with all round robin stages being played to the 9-rounder format and this scoring system is detailed below:
4 Points for a win
2 Points for a draw
1 Bonus Point for scoring 70+ Points
1 Bonus Point for losing within 10 Points
Depending on how many players enter the tournament to start with will depend on how many players advance through to the knockout stages but anyway here is an explanation as to how the knockout process will work:
1 - Each match will be played to the 9 round format from the first knockout round to the semi final. 2 - Each match will be played over a two legged format with the player achieving the highest combined score advancing to the next round.
3- If a tie happens over the two legs then the player with the highest 'away' score will advance to the next round. The player who is home in the first leg will be determined by whoever appears in left column of the Apterous Tournament Fixture System and the other player will be at home in the second leg of the tie.
4 - The final will be played to the 15 round format over the best-of-5
Sign ups will close on the 18th of May.
If you have any questions please feel free to ask
Ran from: 4 – 18 May 2018. Format: 9 Rounder. Matches: One-off. Approved.
Fixtures: 0. Completed: 0.
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