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Adam Finlay Groups: https://www.dropbox.com/s/28waiyshdu69nr4/The%20Big%20Aegilops%20Bash.xlsx?dl=0
REMEMBER TO REMATCH AFTER YOUR TOURNEY GAME TO ENSURE SWAPPING OF PLAYER 1 TO PLAYER 2!

Adam Finlay REALISED SOMETHING:

Tie-breaker conundrums will happen. Sorry about that.

Adam Finlay CLARIFICATION:

The aim is to play each opponent in your group twice. Once as player 1, once as player 2.
Each game counts in terms of wins. Your position in your group will be determined first by number of wins, and then number of points!

Adam Finlay Created a Challonge page too http://challonge.com/Babegilops
"Wins" mean winning 2 games and "Ties" mean winning just 1.

Ian Volante Here's our second match (me with James L: http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=1450293 no rematch button appeared, not sure if that affected which way round we played. I assume we post second match results here?

Adam Finlay Yeah, it appears there doesn't seem to be a rematch button at the end of the game. As long as you do the 2nd game straightaway I think it should be perfectly fine :) Also, if this is done, there isn't a great need to send me the games as I can just click on one of the opponent's next game button :)

Adam Finlay Cheers anyways :)

Ian Volante The rematch appeared after the second one. I suppose logically, it wouldn't appear, as any reverse fixture would be assumed to be in the tourney listing as well.

Adam Finlay Ah. I was worried that i'd mess up the reversing as it sometimes didn't come up with the Player 1, Player 2 order I put in.

Zarte Siempre Adam - the tournament games always play in the order you put them in, but they reorder themselves in the list. I think the player who has been on the site the longest ends up showing on the left.

Adam Finlay That should prove useful for the knockout stage :) cheers for the reassurance. I was just not willing to risk making mistakes.

Chris Marshall http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=1451035

Chris Marshall http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=1451635

Adam Finlay Danke schön Chris!

I'll also take this oppurtunity to thank Callum, Dave and Matty for getting all their group games done!

Adam Finlay Challonge: http://challonge.com/Babegilops
Spreadsheet: https://www.dropbox.com/s/28waiyshdu69nr4/The%20Big%20Aegilops%20Bash.xlsx?dl=0

Jim B My second games against Thomas and Ian: http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=1452272 and http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=1452297

Jon Stitcher Mine and Phyl's second game.

http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=1453382

gives me 3 draws from 3 matches!

Adam Finlay Thanks guys!

Also, special thanks to Zarte and Alan for completing all their games :)

Phyl Styles Jon said we had drawn our matches - that's what he assured me, that no matter who got the tie-break conundrum it would be a draw??

George Ford yeah! that's true

Phyl Styles oh, as long as someone knows how to score it, that's fine

Adam Finlay Apologies. I realise I haven't been particularly explicit about my thought processes on this topic:

Aegilops tie-breaks can take a long while sometimes. So in regards to this I've decided whoever solves this tie-break conundrum should be awarded with a win.
I have been taking this into account for every game played so far. I realise if Jon assured you, this will come as bad news :/ Very sorry about that indeed.

Phyl Styles Think I was stitchered up :(

Adam Finlay Hehe. Do people have any more questions on things they are unclear about/things which I have not explained at all?

Adam Finlay GROUP E now have all games played. This means Zarte is 100% through! Well done!

Comiserations to Matty Artell, who unfortunately cannot proceed to the play-offs! Thanks for playing Matty! :)

Adam Finlay You did win the prize of getting all 4 games done first, however!

Matty Artell #IMayBeShitButAtLeastI'mPunctual c:

Jon Stitcher My apologies to Phyl and Adam. I'm more than happy for my game with Phyl to be classed as a draw as that was my understanding before the game was played.

George Ford That doesn't make sense !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tournament games don't go to a tiebreak, so a tiebreak shouldn't be used to decide!! It should be a single conundrum!!! This is an injustice!!!!!

Ian Volante Yes they do! One of mine certainly did.

George Ford no that's only if they're normal games that are post-added, don't lie to me

George Ford for continuity games that are added here that were normal games but are now tourney games should have tiebreaks ignored

George Ford wait have times changed

George Ford ok I withdraw from this conversation

Adam Finlay I'll make an exception for Jon and Phyl's game only (basically means Jon gets a win removed).
The games here all go to tie-breaks if tie is met after single conundrum. Sorry if i've been misleading/inexplicit/genuinely a bit poor at explaining things in simple detail.

Jon Stitcher Sorry again, but my defeat to Jamie should also count as a draw as we were under the same misapprehension. Assuming Jamie doesn't object of course.

Adam Finlay Any more tie-break games that people feel contain injustice?

Callum Todd if tie-breaks are meant to be draws then thsese two of mine should be draws:

http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=1450547 and http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=1451583

Dave Noble If tie break games are supposed to be draws then http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=1449994 should be a draw

Jon Stitcher Argh, this has opened up a can of worms and is totally my fault. For some reason Jamie and I thought that a game finishing level after 9 rounds was classed as a draw which happened between us. I then told Phyl the same when our game finished the same however Adam has made it clear that they are not meant to be draws. Just me being an idiot.

Adam Finlay They are not meant to be draws. These games are fine as they are.
Although you may have made a presumption based on little fact, Jon, in all honesty i never specifically said that tie breaks counted (nor the contrary for the matter). Wouldn't be too hard on yourself =P I'll message Jamie.

George Ford just delete the whole thing and start again

Michael Cullen http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=1454250

My second game against Chris Marshall.

Jim B My rematch game with James: http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=1454252

Michael Cullen My second game against James Roper

http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=1454259

Chris Marshall http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=1454290

Adam Finlay Cheers guys.

Thanks to Jamie, Matthew, Phyl and myself for getting all the games done.

Matthew is set to go through to the play-offs, however with a tremendous score of 591, Jamie should be in with a great chance of going through too!

Michael Cullen Second game against Sean D

http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=1455401

Steve Balog Round 2 vs. Michelle:

http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=1459253

Adam Finlay GROUP A's now completed all games.

Callum Todd is the leader and will advance to the play-offs.

Sean D Sean D v James Roper, Mk 2
http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=1459925