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Zarte Siempre http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=1259972

Jamie M Ok. So I definitely owe Zarte an apology for this for wasting his time and generally messing him around on it.

I really don't want to change the challenge rules after setting it, but given the choice of admitting early on to making a mistake and having to discount a few early games (see above), and leaving a broken challenge up for nearly three weeks just to keep some consistency, I think I have to do the former.

ADDITIONAL RULE: the word length used cannot be the maximum possible length for words in the variant. So for Junior variants this is 7, for Octo variants and Deepdown this is 8, for 9-letter variants this is 9, for Hyper variants this is 12 and for Spoilage this is 45.

In trying to set up the scoring for this I realised that I couldn't allow Spoilage AND standard scoring (45 is a big number), hence the Stepdown scoring. I did however forget how often you can get 7s in some Junior variants (Touch and, if you're a better picker than me, Goat) which is the main...

Jamie M ...problem here. It applies to Touchdown 9s to a lesser extent, since their high frequency doesn't necessarily mean you can consistently get them round after round. It hasn't exactly come across but I wanted the number of declared words and number of maxes to be two separate things here, hence why both are used in the scoring.

I really hope there's nothing else wrong with this. It's debatable whether I should be changing anything now anyway, so if there's anything else that turns out to not work well I'll just have to leave it as it is.

Sorry again about all of this, especially to you Zarte :(

[ADDITIONAL RULE IN ABOVE COMMENT, PLEASE READ]

Richard Freeland I think this works:
http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=1260082

Quinn James Would it be acceptable to do this in CSW?

Quinn James If so, here's my first attempt: http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=1260110

That would be 1062, but I think I can do better with some experimentation.

Stephen R I make this 2212: http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=1260306

Jamie M Sorry Quinn, all Revolver challenges need to be done in English because I have less of an idea of max length frequencies etc. in other dictionaries. I'll start specifying this from now on.

* Stephen R 2212
* Richard Freeland 678

Jon Stitcher Didn't set this as stepdown but had I done it would have been 11 x 196 which is 2156.

Up to you if you allow it

http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=1265976

Tom Cappleman 1270 I think: http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=1266009

Jamie M [From above, since it's gone off the page:

ADDITIONAL RULE (added on first day): the word length used cannot be the maximum possible length for words in the variant. So for Junior variants this is 7, for Octo variants and Deepdown this is 8, for 9-letter variants this is 9, for Hyper variants this is 12 and for Spoilage this is 45.]

That's fine Jon, Stepdown isn't too hard to work out. I make your score 1,360 though - the 6s score 136 points with 10 maxes.

Stephen R 2212
* Jon Stitcher 1360
* Thomas Cappleman 1270
Richard Freeland 678

Tom Cappleman 1458: http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=1266313

Jamie M Stephen R 2212
* Thomas Cappleman 1458
Jon Stitcher 1360
Richard Freeland 678

Matthew Tassier 4294: http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=1270908

Zarte Siempre I didn't think tie-breaks were good? Or was that another of these things, I can't remember.

Jamie M Sorry if I haven't specified it anywhere but tie breaks DON'T count for these, sorry about that Matthew. I feel like it'd cause a lot of problems if I did. Over 20 rounds you got 13x166 though - still a good score btw - so I'll add that in.

Stephen R 2212
* Matthew Tassier 2158
Thomas Cappleman 1458
Jon Stitcher 1360
Richard Freeland 678

Matthew Tassier Cheers, thought that would probably be the ruling, but no harm in trying my luck, eh?

Jamie M True, if you don't ask and I didn't say then there's no way of finding out. I guess it slipped my mind (often I say something along the lines of "make sure it's a 20-round game with alternate picks" etc but I happened not to say that in the rules this time), since player v player games haven't featured much.

4,000 is the perfect raw score for this challenge then.