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Chris Butler In

Adam Gillard In please - can you add a sign-up facility to this or did you have to do that when creating the tournament?

Matt Morrison I thought I did tick the "Allow signups" but looks like I didn't. I'll ask Charlie if he can change it, if not I'll do a forum thread. Better than signing up in comments I think.

Zarte Siempre I'll say in, but I'ma break balls if I get Innis again.

Matt Morrison You can sign up now guys.

Adam Gillard Tom Carey hasn't signed up yet. Presumably he'll need to for his forthcoming AptoSOS game(s) to be logged automatically.

Matt Morrison Hi guys. Great turnout so far. Sorry for not accepting applications - being lazy and waiting for Charile to do the "accept all" button :)

Matt Morrison You will go to the ball!

Jonathan Wynn Saw it earlier. You've got Innis first game, then Bob de Caux, then Dan followed by Jack. Good luck!"

Jonathan Wynn That's right. If you beat all them, its you vs his solver in the quarters!"

Zarte Siempre Nah, number 5, his solver wasn't that good.

Jonathan Wynn True. Actually considering his combination of natural ability AND a solver, he was actually ridiculously bad!!!

Jonathan Wynn Just coz Joe cheated why should his solver be banned too?

Thomas Carey Where's the draw at?

Jonathan Wynn Prediction: Which will.come first? The start of this tournament or Jason Larsen's first max?

Jonathan Wynn "Awaits Innis first round after that comment"

Matt Morrison haha
random is as random does, jon!

Matt Morrison http://www.c4countdown.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=9593&p=143080#p143080

that includes a couple of rule tweaks (nothing too major) and a final chance to sign up. First fixture will be up here by 4:30pm.

Jonathan Wynn Ooh, how exciting :)

Jonathan Wynn Thanks for organising this Matt-looking forward to it.

Thomas Carey What about me? I'm the carryover guy!

Matt Morrison Sorry Thomas, that was a terrible start. Rectified now - thanks!

Zarte Siempre Well we know the winner plays Adam...

Matt Morrison omgspoilerz

Adam Gillard I didn't know...

Matt Morrison Officially under way, yay!

Rhys Benjamin Could you (Matt) notify the next player, as (obviously) we don't know who it is and I don't want to be checking this every day.

Matt Morrison Don't you get an e-mail when you are given a tournament fixture?

Zarte Siempre News to me.

Matt Morrison Well you should. Seems a glaring omission. I'll ticket it.

Matt Morrison Charlie will be pleased - just managed to find it before starting a new ticket, knew it had been accepted already!

http://www.apterous.org/ticket_view.php?ticket=678

here it is - come on guys, vote. can you believe some dickhead down voted this? love to hear the sense behind that one.

Matt Morrison Adam and Thomas have failed to play so their one-off two-day extension has kicked in, and they will need to get their match played by tomorrow night at the latest to avoid repercussions. Shame for this to happen so early in the tournament but hopefully we can pick up steam afterwards.

Adam Gillard I only found out I was due to play when I just happened to look at this page. I think it would be best for you to initiate the aptomail threads in the future.

Matt Morrison Whilst I agree with you in principle Adam (Charlie adding the notification email is the clear solution, but I can't hurry that) in your individual case I believe your complaint is somewhat invalidated by the fact you've visited apterous every single day since the fixture was posted on the 2nd, but no mail was sent until the 8th. There would have been a message at the top of the page which I think you can't miss really concerning the arranged tournament game. I don't have any means to prove it but this page http://www.apterous.org/item.php?item=242 suggests you didn't miss the GOTW banner in the same position...

Adam Gillard Well, I did miss this tournament game initially as I have several lines of unplayed tournament fixtures in the top banner and it got lost in all of that. Also, I had no way of knowing that the fixture was posted on the 2nd until just now. I did have the advantage of knowing I was drawn to play next as Zarte posted it here.

In future you should at least make sure people know that their fixture has been posted, so that they know when their deadline is! Others might not visit every day or might not remember they even entered the tournament (or might have the same problem as me in having loads of Aptotude and Open fixtures up too). I don't think I could have done much more to get this fixture played; it looks like we'll be playing it at 7.30 tonight.

I don't think the onus should be on the contestants to start the aptomail thread; at least whilst the notification email doesn't exist. You doing it and informing of the deadline would be much more useful.

Graeme Cole I think Adam has a point here. Some people might not visit apterous every day, and if they suddenly see they've got an aptoSoS game they won't know if it's been there for one day or six.

If Matt were to send a short aptomail to the two players every time he updated the tourney, just to say "aptoSoS, you're up next, off you go", then there's no excuse for not knowing who you have to play and when. Also it means the players will be more likely to arrange the match quickly since the aptomail thread is already set up with Matt included on it.

Charlie Reams My match with Eoin will be at 10pm on 8 August, if anyone is keen to tune in.

Charlie Reams Am I right in thinking that tiebreak points shouldn't count?

Matt Morrison Whatever would be the normal rules in a regular series - you'd know that better than me but I'm guessing that's "yes" you're correct that "no" they shouldn't.

Charlie Reams http://wiki.apterous.org/Series_69#Leaderboard Yep, that's how it works on TV. I don't think I can be bothered with most conundrums as a second-level tiebreaker, but maybe it'll happen one day.

Zarte Siempre ^ I can't wait for this match. I wonder who will win.

Eoin M I'm feeling good about it, just hitting top form

Matt Morrison NOTE that two of Charlie's wins (he has four under his belt) are yet to be restored since The Crash. We move on with James-Ned and Charlie's other two wins (vs. Eoin and Dave) will be reinstated at some point soon hopefully.

Kieran Bray Just a warning guys, I don't know when I may be around again as my laptop is being an asshole. Just in case my game pops up!

Matt Morrison You're actually some way off yet Kieran - you'll be fine.

Charlie Reams Ooh, next fixture's a good'un.

Michael Cullen Chris Hare not defending?

Matt Morrison Did he win it last time? Must have passed me by.

67 entrants for this one by the way guys, and all seems to working pretty well so far.

Michael Cullen Looks like he won it which surprised me, nice wins over Innis and Deeks to clinch it.

Charlie Reams Looks like tetrachampdom might not be enough for a finals spot in this series...

Matt Morrison Talking of which, the points from your "other" two wins have disappeared from the league table since the big ol' crash of 2013.

Zarte Siempre James Hall hasn't been seen for 2 months. This is going to be a very dull wait for the next 6 days.

Matt Morrison Thanks for the heads up, I'll remove him.

Matt Conway I did my best to lose that last one; fooled myself into thinking I didn't have the letters for 'financier, rubbish round 8, played the CSW word in round 9, then bottled 'floaty' and 'peptide'

Jen Steadman Well this has been more than a week's wait.

Charlie Reams I think the 3-day extension expired last night so I'll remove the fixture. Will leave Matt to schedule the next feature depending on who (if either) made any effort to play.

Matt Morrison Just beat me to it. I actually gave Adam and Matt until 8am this morning but accidentally forgot to take my order of play to work (again) so they got all day today as well. Let's move on, people.

Matt Morrison Zarte Siempre is no longer on apterous. The Siempre can consider himself very lucky I was willing to transfer Zarte's entry. Phwoar, Zarte's entry.

Zarte Siempre *carry on voice* Ohhhhhh MATTron

Matt Morrison Zarte - Innis - Platt. Random selection hits beast mode.

Zarte Siempre Do him, Andy.

Zarte Siempre One of these days, I'll get a run through a series that isn't blocked by the best player possible...

Matt Morrison You definitely have some fine company to sympathise with this time round Zarte! (Sorry Andy, Marcus, and possibly one more...)

Matt Morrison and there's the one more. Sorry Callum.

Callum Todd *gulp*

Matt Morrison Random is as random does, and this time round random is packing heat and getting some gang ink.

Callum Todd so close :( well done Innis.

Chris Marshall Heather hasn't played for a while. I think you might know that already Matt :)

Edwin Mead I was surprised to be included, as I withdrew my sign-up a couple of months ago. Having said that, I was happy to take part after all. Well played, Jack.

Matt Morrison Oh, sorry Edwin! It must have been days after I did the draw. Unless I'm mistaken I don't get any notification about withdrawals. Glad you enjoyed it anyway!

Matt Morrison Shit totally didn't realise the last game was played. My bad.

Rhys Benjamin I'm not on here a lot of the time these days, so would really like a little memo when it's my turn!

Johnny Canuck They PM you one.

Charlie Reams One more year should do it.

Zarte Siempre ^ like.

Matt Morrison haha sweet

Charlie Reams Matt, how many people are still in the queue?

Matt Morrison 8 after Steadman and Patel

Matt Morrison so still enough for all 8 QFs to be full champs!

Charlie Reams Sweet, I look forward to losing my QF in the traditional manner.

Zarte Siempre I see I'm well on course to match my IRL performance and finish 9th.

Rhys Benjamin It looks likely that there will be more than 8 octochamps. Then what?

Andy Platt Points scored, but I think they are using the term tetrachamps

Matt Morrison I never dealt very well with tetrachamp as it (wrongly, I know) stinks of "three" to me. I always used quadrachamp but would be happy to bow to the masses' preference.

As you can clearly see from the league table, Andy is right that points scored separate placings.

If Zubair wins the current scheduled match and one more, there are 5 left. Yes, enough to create another finalist, but don't forget it would have to be player 1 or player 2 (otherwise they'll be hungover onto the next series).

Rhys Benjamin I wasn't very clear. What I mean is that it seemed to me as if there would be more than 8 tetrachamps. Are you saying that the ninth tetrachamp will not go through? That's harsh.

Innis Carson Harsh, but not unfair. It's the logical extension of wins-then-points. Pretty sure Damian's said before that it's what they would do on Countdown if there were 9 octochamps in one series.

Charlie Reams I certainly didn't assume that just because I had 4 wins I was assured of a place in the finals. It's been much more exciting watching the games unfolding to see if I'd make the cut.

Rhys Benjamin Ah, all right. Just would feel a bit cheesed off if I were Josh and I got shunted out...

Rhys Benjamin Facepalm. http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=1235476&round=20081498#r20081498

Zarte Siempre You lost by 29 points. I don't think that was the deciding factor...

Rhys Benjamin It wasn't. But I seem like an idiot for missing it, and it meant I took risks that I otherwise wouldn't.

Jon Stitcher You mean when you risked a word where all the letters weren't there?

Rhys Benjamin Yep. Panicked and had forgotten that the second M didn't exist when it said he'd got a 7.